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		<title>By: cheskafaith</title>
		<link>http://brentinworship.com/blog/2009/06/everyday-i-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-6660</link>
		<dc:creator>cheskafaith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely honest and true. If the focus is on the style/tempo/genre/etc... It is NOT on the words that are being lifted up to the Lord. Worship like life is for God not us. &quot;Complainers&quot; generally suffer from pride or an ungrateful heart. To encourage that or be lead by it, is like encouraging immoral behavior: swearing, drinking, recklessness, or sexual promiscuity; it all leads to death. And we are called to spur one another on to Godliness- nothing less. When we feed what the flesh desires, we are simply nourishing evil. The way to kill something is cut off it&#039;s food source. I applaud your wisdom and obedience despite the risk of more criticism,  and would love to visit your worship service some day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely honest and true. If the focus is on the style/tempo/genre/etc&#8230; It is NOT on the words that are being lifted up to the Lord. Worship like life is for God not us. &#8220;Complainers&#8221; generally suffer from pride or an ungrateful heart. To encourage that or be lead by it, is like encouraging immoral behavior: swearing, drinking, recklessness, or sexual promiscuity; it all leads to death. And we are called to spur one another on to Godliness- nothing less. When we feed what the flesh desires, we are simply nourishing evil. The way to kill something is cut off it&#8217;s food source. I applaud your wisdom and obedience despite the risk of more criticism,  and would love to visit your worship service some day.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred McKinnon</title>
		<link>http://brentinworship.com/blog/2009/06/everyday-i-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-6103</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred McKinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, my friend.  Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, my friend.  Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Country Club or Birthday Party?&#160;&#124;&#160;brent(inWorship)</title>
		<link>http://brentinworship.com/blog/2009/06/everyday-i-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-6102</link>
		<dc:creator>Country Club or Birthday Party?&#160;&#124;&#160;brent(inWorship)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thinking   My buddy b4dguy and I were discussing on my last post, and he left this video for me. What does it really mean to be uncomfortable for Christ? How are we [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Thinking   My buddy b4dguy and I were discussing on my last post, and he left this video for me. What does it really mean to be uncomfortable for Christ? How are we [...]</p>
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		<title>By: inWorship</title>
		<link>http://brentinworship.com/blog/2009/06/everyday-i-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-6101</link>
		<dc:creator>inWorship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it is a daily, intentional decision to stay focused on that. It helps when we don&#039;t rely on the new face &quot;walking through the doors&quot;, to be our incentive. Instead the encounters &quot;outside of the doors&quot;.

When my son is done playing drums, I&#039;ll listen to the Campolo clip :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it is a daily, intentional decision to stay focused on that. It helps when we don&#8217;t rely on the new face &#8220;walking through the doors&#8221;, to be our incentive. Instead the encounters &#8220;outside of the doors&#8221;.</p>
<p>When my son is done playing drums, I&#8217;ll listen to the Campolo clip <img src='http://brentinworship.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: badguy</title>
		<link>http://brentinworship.com/blog/2009/06/everyday-i-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-6100</link>
		<dc:creator>badguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brent - It&#039;s so exciting as a member of the Body to see others &quot;get it&quot; and start going and doing for God. I&#039;m exhilarated just reading a little about it this morning (especially after just listening to the Campolo clip I just posted). 

Jesus said in His great commission to &quot;GO&quot; - the more literal translation is &quot;as you are going.&quot; The world begins at our doorstep. How exciting that people are figuring it out - how sad that some have moved on to find another buffet table.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;badguy&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://b4dguy.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/let-your-light-shine/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let your light shine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brent &#8211; It&#8217;s so exciting as a member of the Body to see others &#8220;get it&#8221; and start going and doing for God. I&#8217;m exhilarated just reading a little about it this morning (especially after just listening to the Campolo clip I just posted). </p>
<p>Jesus said in His great commission to &#8220;GO&#8221; &#8211; the more literal translation is &#8220;as you are going.&#8221; The world begins at our doorstep. How exciting that people are figuring it out &#8211; how sad that some have moved on to find another buffet table.</p>
<p><abbr><em>badguy&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://b4dguy.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/let-your-light-shine/" rel="nofollow">Let your light shine</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: badguy</title>
		<link>http://brentinworship.com/blog/2009/06/everyday-i-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-6099</link>
		<dc:creator>badguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still searching, but this one will do for now quite nicely:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWlMV-UmueM

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;badguy&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://b4dguy.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/let-your-light-shine/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let your light shine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still searching, but this one will do for now quite nicely:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWlMV-UmueM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWlMV-UmueM</a></p>
<p><abbr><em>badguy&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://b4dguy.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/let-your-light-shine/" rel="nofollow">Let your light shine</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: inWorship</title>
		<link>http://brentinworship.com/blog/2009/06/everyday-i-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-6098</link>
		<dc:creator>inWorship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be anxious to hear that. I really appreciate the things Campolo has to teach.

As a note, we have noticed much of this at Table Rock. Not as much regarding the diversity, but regarding general attendance. This is not an ad for us, but instead a picture...

Over the last 4 years or so, we as a church have been &quot;coasting&quot;. We realize this and have made changes personally and within the leadership to challenge it. It has brought many changes. Many, even in leadership, moving a side. We&#039;ve also seen a large amount of our people disappear over the last year. Most specifically in the last 6 months. We have a much great internal focus on caring for each other and our local community. In doing this, it has set a side some things that others felt were more important. We don&#039;t feel this way. People who want to be fed are leaving and people who want to feed are showing up. The interesting thing is that our numbers are down a little bit, but not much. Instead, we are seeing many new faces. And these faces are coming with stories. Neighbors are ministering to neighbors. Coworkers are caring for each other. Long time church goers(pew sitters) are plugging into food pantries and social/community work. In turn, we are seeing those people arrive Sunday AM to meet together and then they are turning around and working in the community together as they leave. It has been awesome to watch. the stories and changed lives are incredible. In the past, it was easy (sounds bad) to say someone &quot;accepted Christ today&quot;. But we didn&#039;t have as many people professing a changed life. Today, that story is everywhere and it is both confirming and humbling. It encourages and challenges me in my own walk .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be anxious to hear that. I really appreciate the things Campolo has to teach.</p>
<p>As a note, we have noticed much of this at Table Rock. Not as much regarding the diversity, but regarding general attendance. This is not an ad for us, but instead a picture&#8230;</p>
<p>Over the last 4 years or so, we as a church have been &#8220;coasting&#8221;. We realize this and have made changes personally and within the leadership to challenge it. It has brought many changes. Many, even in leadership, moving a side. We&#8217;ve also seen a large amount of our people disappear over the last year. Most specifically in the last 6 months. We have a much great internal focus on caring for each other and our local community. In doing this, it has set a side some things that others felt were more important. We don&#8217;t feel this way. People who want to be fed are leaving and people who want to feed are showing up. The interesting thing is that our numbers are down a little bit, but not much. Instead, we are seeing many new faces. And these faces are coming with stories. Neighbors are ministering to neighbors. Coworkers are caring for each other. Long time church goers(pew sitters) are plugging into food pantries and social/community work. In turn, we are seeing those people arrive Sunday AM to meet together and then they are turning around and working in the community together as they leave. It has been awesome to watch. the stories and changed lives are incredible. In the past, it was easy (sounds bad) to say someone &#8220;accepted Christ today&#8221;. But we didn&#8217;t have as many people professing a changed life. Today, that story is everywhere and it is both confirming and humbling. It encourages and challenges me in my own walk .</p>
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		<title>By: badguy</title>
		<link>http://brentinworship.com/blog/2009/06/everyday-i-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-6097</link>
		<dc:creator>badguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brent - thanks for reading my response twice. I was deliberately terse to see how you&#039;d respond (and I wholeheartedly commend you for your second response). Iron sharpens iron and all that...

I heard Tony Campolo speaking ONCE about his church in Philadelphia. When he started attending he asked the Sr. Pastor how it had come to be that a predominantly black church had become more integrated and diverse (and very large too). The Sr. Pastor told him this(my paraphrase of course):

&quot;It was the tradition of the pastors and elders to get up on Sunday, open the Bible, and let the Spirit guide them to the Scripture to be taught. One Sunday I got up, opened the Bible, and came to this verse, &#039;Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all&#039;. I felt the Spirit telling me to preach a sermon of equality and integration - so I did.&quot;

Campolo responded, &quot;and that&#039;s when your congregation began to grow?&quot;

The preacher responded, &quot;Oh No! I preached that congregation down to FOUR!&quot; He concluded, &quot;But sometimes revival starts with a winnowing of the chaff.&quot;

I think I&#039;ll see if I can find this story online somewhere (off to youtube...)

Blessings to you and yours, my brother!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;badguy&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://b4dguy.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/let-your-light-shine/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let your light shine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brent &#8211; thanks for reading my response twice. I was deliberately terse to see how you&#8217;d respond (and I wholeheartedly commend you for your second response). Iron sharpens iron and all that&#8230;</p>
<p>I heard Tony Campolo speaking ONCE about his church in Philadelphia. When he started attending he asked the Sr. Pastor how it had come to be that a predominantly black church had become more integrated and diverse (and very large too). The Sr. Pastor told him this(my paraphrase of course):</p>
<p>&#8220;It was the tradition of the pastors and elders to get up on Sunday, open the Bible, and let the Spirit guide them to the Scripture to be taught. One Sunday I got up, opened the Bible, and came to this verse, &#8216;Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all&#8217;. I felt the Spirit telling me to preach a sermon of equality and integration &#8211; so I did.&#8221;</p>
<p>Campolo responded, &#8220;and that&#8217;s when your congregation began to grow?&#8221;</p>
<p>The preacher responded, &#8220;Oh No! I preached that congregation down to FOUR!&#8221; He concluded, &#8220;But sometimes revival starts with a winnowing of the chaff.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll see if I can find this story online somewhere (off to youtube&#8230;)</p>
<p>Blessings to you and yours, my brother!</p>
<p><abbr><em>badguy&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://b4dguy.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/let-your-light-shine/" rel="nofollow">Let your light shine</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: inWorship</title>
		<link>http://brentinworship.com/blog/2009/06/everyday-i-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-6096</link>
		<dc:creator>inWorship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, looking back through your comment, I understand a little better what your saying.

Everything I have written in this post. The failures and fears and vision all are supported by the staff I work with. So, I don&#039;t have any concern over what I am saying here and being told &quot;no&quot; by the men I work with.

If our leadership continues to lead this way, which we do now, we may lose people at the church, which mean maybe less money, which means that I may not be employed by Table Rock. So be it. I am greatly blessed to be able to be paid for what I do. If I am not. So be it. Nothing changes. As long as I am asked to lead at Table Rock, I will lead. Paycheck or not. And beyond that, I am unconcerned over what congregation I am apart of. If it&#039;s Table Rock. Great. If it&#039;s the church down the street. Great. If it&#039;s in a different country under nothing that resembles an organized western church. Great. I am open and willing to wherever God leads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, looking back through your comment, I understand a little better what your saying.</p>
<p>Everything I have written in this post. The failures and fears and vision all are supported by the staff I work with. So, I don&#8217;t have any concern over what I am saying here and being told &#8220;no&#8221; by the men I work with.</p>
<p>If our leadership continues to lead this way, which we do now, we may lose people at the church, which mean maybe less money, which means that I may not be employed by Table Rock. So be it. I am greatly blessed to be able to be paid for what I do. If I am not. So be it. Nothing changes. As long as I am asked to lead at Table Rock, I will lead. Paycheck or not. And beyond that, I am unconcerned over what congregation I am apart of. If it&#8217;s Table Rock. Great. If it&#8217;s the church down the street. Great. If it&#8217;s in a different country under nothing that resembles an organized western church. Great. I am open and willing to wherever God leads.</p>
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		<title>By: inWorship</title>
		<link>http://brentinworship.com/blog/2009/06/everyday-i-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-6095</link>
		<dc:creator>inWorship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad, good to hear you :)

I thought the post said what I am doing.

I choose to seek what God, purely and simply. In my daily life. In my leadership of others. I do not seek to please man, but only God. I will struggle and make mistakes through it, but I am purposefully seeking Him and Hi alone.

Not sure what my &quot;employment&quot; has to do with that. Whether employed by the church or not, I will always struggle daily with laying down myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad, good to hear you <img src='http://brentinworship.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I thought the post said what I am doing.</p>
<p>I choose to seek what God, purely and simply. In my daily life. In my leadership of others. I do not seek to please man, but only God. I will struggle and make mistakes through it, but I am purposefully seeking Him and Hi alone.</p>
<p>Not sure what my &#8220;employment&#8221; has to do with that. Whether employed by the church or not, I will always struggle daily with laying down myself.</p>
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