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		<title>By: darla</title>
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		<dc:creator>darla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree...I am wondering what else is going on in light of the world current events in general...two countries facing the same deal...no doubt there is lots of dirty things going on behind the scenes that will cost the average citizen more than they can pay...I was reading the post on the B&amp;B over at the &quot;frogs&quot; and thought it was about here..ahhhh 

just a thought but entertain it for a moment that is all it takes...If I were Al-quaida(sp?) freezing our economy and causing a depression is similiar to us trying to freeze their assets...we all know there are plenty of people who will sell their mother for the right price...just a thought I had when realizing we are not the only country..looks like all countries claiming democracy..and yes our greed plays into it...okay I am done with the hard thinking...love ya have a good day..back to work for me!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;darla&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://4evrhis.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/healing-restoration-and-a-smile/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Healing, restoration, and a smile&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230;I am wondering what else is going on in light of the world current events in general&#8230;two countries facing the same deal&#8230;no doubt there is lots of dirty things going on behind the scenes that will cost the average citizen more than they can pay&#8230;I was reading the post on the B&amp;B over at the &#8220;frogs&#8221; and thought it was about here..ahhhh </p>
<p>just a thought but entertain it for a moment that is all it takes&#8230;If I were Al-quaida(sp?) freezing our economy and causing a depression is similiar to us trying to freeze their assets&#8230;we all know there are plenty of people who will sell their mother for the right price&#8230;just a thought I had when realizing we are not the only country..looks like all countries claiming democracy..and yes our greed plays into it&#8230;okay I am done with the hard thinking&#8230;love ya have a good day..back to work for me!</p>
<p><abbr><em>darla&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://4evrhis.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/healing-restoration-and-a-smile/" rel="nofollow">Healing, restoration, and a smile</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: inWorship</title>
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		<dc:creator>inWorship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reality is Darla, as much good as this bailout situation can give, it has completely erased the need for accountability. Banks are given the opportunity to do exactly as they have been doing, which we know is not working and causing issues with the world&#039;s economy.

Seems to me, that in our governments hopes of pushing away a depression, they have chosen to not look at and fix the current systems. A mere band aid, that is going to come off at some point to expose a nasty wound that already exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reality is Darla, as much good as this bailout situation can give, it has completely erased the need for accountability. Banks are given the opportunity to do exactly as they have been doing, which we know is not working and causing issues with the world&#8217;s economy.</p>
<p>Seems to me, that in our governments hopes of pushing away a depression, they have chosen to not look at and fix the current systems. A mere band aid, that is going to come off at some point to expose a nasty wound that already exists.</p>
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		<title>By: darla</title>
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		<dc:creator>darla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know its just like me to throw a wrench in something..I am good at it :roll:  

Have you been following the same scenario in England with the B&amp;B?  It eerily similiar..and has caused me to step back for the news reports and the press releases and look at both situations...and now my bigger question is..&quot;What is really going on, and when do they think the truth might be a good idea?&quot;   just being the 70% later the 30% will be out to play!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;darla&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://4evrhis.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/healing-restoration-and-a-smile/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Healing, restoration, and a smile&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know its just like me to throw a wrench in something..I am good at it <img src='http://brentinworship.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Have you been following the same scenario in England with the B&amp;B?  It eerily similiar..and has caused me to step back for the news reports and the press releases and look at both situations&#8230;and now my bigger question is..&#8221;What is really going on, and when do they think the truth might be a good idea?&#8221;   just being the 70% later the 30% will be out to play!</p>
<p><abbr><em>darla&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://4evrhis.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/healing-restoration-and-a-smile/" rel="nofollow">Healing, restoration, and a smile</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: inWorship</title>
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		<dc:creator>inWorship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it passed the Senate and it just passed the House. Lord help us. It will be interesting to see what happens. My opinion, absolutely nothing will change and we will be deeper in debt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it passed the Senate and it just passed the House. Lord help us. It will be interesting to see what happens. My opinion, absolutely nothing will change and we will be deeper in debt.</p>
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		<title>By: inWorship</title>
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		<dc:creator>inWorship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your last two paragraphs speak volumes to me. My contention is that we have it all backwards and the cart in front of the horse, so to speak. 

Greed is key here. I know I have to make sure I am living without it. When i do, it&#039;s interesting how things that used to matter, just are not that important anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your last two paragraphs speak volumes to me. My contention is that we have it all backwards and the cart in front of the horse, so to speak. </p>
<p>Greed is key here. I know I have to make sure I am living without it. When i do, it&#8217;s interesting how things that used to matter, just are not that important anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brent, it is ironic that I am defending a system, buy now and pay later, that I don&#039;t follow my self.

I worked at two banks, First Union in CT and Wachovia, that were lead by some of the smartest bankers in the business.  They made terrible loans and both banks have failed.  It was greed that turned these financial genuises into river boat gamblers.

I can&#039;t claim to be enough of an expert to say that Capitalism could not exist with out the use of credit.  You could be right.

I do think the credit markets have helped to built America into the strongest economy in the world, even with all these bankruptcies.  However a strong economy in itself does not make a great country.
The focus of too many Americans is on making money and the material goods it buys.  We do need to shift that focus from money to people.  Building a stable family life is more important than the size of the house we live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brent, it is ironic that I am defending a system, buy now and pay later, that I don&#8217;t follow my self.</p>
<p>I worked at two banks, First Union in CT and Wachovia, that were lead by some of the smartest bankers in the business.  They made terrible loans and both banks have failed.  It was greed that turned these financial genuises into river boat gamblers.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t claim to be enough of an expert to say that Capitalism could not exist with out the use of credit.  You could be right.</p>
<p>I do think the credit markets have helped to built America into the strongest economy in the world, even with all these bankruptcies.  However a strong economy in itself does not make a great country.<br />
The focus of too many Americans is on making money and the material goods it buys.  We do need to shift that focus from money to people.  Building a stable family life is more important than the size of the house we live in.</p>
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		<title>By: inWorship</title>
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		<dc:creator>inWorship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ef, honestly, regarding the earmarks, I don&#039;t think anyone should be handed money by the government. that&#039;s just me though. We need to earn it and when we are able to borrow what we need to move forward. The regulation is key to me. So far regulation has been based on how much return a dollar lent can earn. That doesn&#039;t seem right. As long as banks are considered money makers, we will always have this issue. Maybe the government could just take over banks, loan money at zero percent and all these issues would be gone :)

I&#039;m opk with slow growth, but it does seem that when a product really connects with society, that there is no way to slow growth down. I believe that there will be businesses that only maintain and that&#039;s ok and others that excel. I don&#039;t think all businesses should have the same options, just because they are a business, I think that the product and the need for that product should gauge the value and worth of a business. That&#039;s what i would like to see us get back to. We are just so money hungry as a country. We think we should be able to make money without working for it. I disagree.

I don&#039;t have much opinion on this do I :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ef, honestly, regarding the earmarks, I don&#8217;t think anyone should be handed money by the government. that&#8217;s just me though. We need to earn it and when we are able to borrow what we need to move forward. The regulation is key to me. So far regulation has been based on how much return a dollar lent can earn. That doesn&#8217;t seem right. As long as banks are considered money makers, we will always have this issue. Maybe the government could just take over banks, loan money at zero percent and all these issues would be gone <img src='http://brentinworship.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m opk with slow growth, but it does seem that when a product really connects with society, that there is no way to slow growth down. I believe that there will be businesses that only maintain and that&#8217;s ok and others that excel. I don&#8217;t think all businesses should have the same options, just because they are a business, I think that the product and the need for that product should gauge the value and worth of a business. That&#8217;s what i would like to see us get back to. We are just so money hungry as a country. We think we should be able to make money without working for it. I disagree.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have much opinion on this do I <img src='http://brentinworship.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brent, you might be happy to know that one of the &quot;earmarks&quot;, and there are over 300 pages worth, added to the bail-out, to get the House of Representatives to pass it, is for an Oregon company, &quot;Wooden Arrows designed for use by children (Sec. 503)&quot;  I believe at least one of the Reps who voted against the bail out was from Oregon.


It was in reaction to the Depression of 1930 that the government became more involved in the US financial markets.  Regulations, like the Glass-Stegall Act, which created the FDIC, were designed designed to control speculation by Banks.  It was repealed 1999 to de-regulate the banking industry.  To get the Government less involved in business.

I hate the idea of owing anybody money.  If I did own a business I would probably try to operate as you suggest, on cash not credit.

I can see some advantages to a cash system, such as it might be more stable. It could lead to a slower pace of change, which some people would prefer.

I think growth is likely to be slower because you would need to build up a cash reserve before you could buy new equipment. A new competitor, starting out with the latest innovations, could put you out of business.

I could also mean that in bad times, when you do not have adequate reserves, with not access to credit you are more likely to go bankrupt.    The people with the cash to start of business are the rich, a person who inherits a business, or an older person who had worked long enough to save enough money.  

I think a cash only environment is likely to work against a young person with a great idea, but no money and the innovator.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;ed&#180;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://edfromct.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/charter-for-compassion/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Charter For Compassion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brent, you might be happy to know that one of the &#8220;earmarks&#8221;, and there are over 300 pages worth, added to the bail-out, to get the House of Representatives to pass it, is for an Oregon company, &#8220;Wooden Arrows designed for use by children (Sec. 503)&#8221;  I believe at least one of the Reps who voted against the bail out was from Oregon.</p>
<p>It was in reaction to the Depression of 1930 that the government became more involved in the US financial markets.  Regulations, like the Glass-Stegall Act, which created the FDIC, were designed designed to control speculation by Banks.  It was repealed 1999 to de-regulate the banking industry.  To get the Government less involved in business.</p>
<p>I hate the idea of owing anybody money.  If I did own a business I would probably try to operate as you suggest, on cash not credit.</p>
<p>I can see some advantages to a cash system, such as it might be more stable. It could lead to a slower pace of change, which some people would prefer.</p>
<p>I think growth is likely to be slower because you would need to build up a cash reserve before you could buy new equipment. A new competitor, starting out with the latest innovations, could put you out of business.</p>
<p>I could also mean that in bad times, when you do not have adequate reserves, with not access to credit you are more likely to go bankrupt.    The people with the cash to start of business are the rich, a person who inherits a business, or an older person who had worked long enough to save enough money.  </p>
<p>I think a cash only environment is likely to work against a young person with a great idea, but no money and the innovator.</p>
<p><abbr><em>ed&#180;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://edfromct.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/charter-for-compassion/" rel="nofollow">Charter For Compassion</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: inWorship</title>
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		<dc:creator>inWorship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, I hate band aids. I&#039;ve always been one to just let it air out :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, I hate band aids. I&#8217;ve always been one to just let it air out <img src='http://brentinworship.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: inWorship</title>
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		<dc:creator>inWorship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, here&#039;s my problem with our current system. The government feels it needs to be involved. If the government is not involved, there is no &quot;big brother&quot; to lean on or as k for help. There is no system of covering a fallout, so people are more cautious in their investments. There are no promises.

I still contend that I am not speaking against our system of capitalism, I am speaking against our system of money handling. Capitalism is not built on money that doesn&#039;t exist. Bad loans are. Capitalism is not an opportunity for just a rich man to get richer, it is an opportunity for a small business person to create a great product and make a life for himself. Our system does not protect that. it protects the rich man. Why? Cause the government is involved.

Capitalism is not built on credit. It is built on innovation and hard work. Credit is a tool, not the product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, here&#8217;s my problem with our current system. The government feels it needs to be involved. If the government is not involved, there is no &#8220;big brother&#8221; to lean on or as k for help. There is no system of covering a fallout, so people are more cautious in their investments. There are no promises.</p>
<p>I still contend that I am not speaking against our system of capitalism, I am speaking against our system of money handling. Capitalism is not built on money that doesn&#8217;t exist. Bad loans are. Capitalism is not an opportunity for just a rich man to get richer, it is an opportunity for a small business person to create a great product and make a life for himself. Our system does not protect that. it protects the rich man. Why? Cause the government is involved.</p>
<p>Capitalism is not built on credit. It is built on innovation and hard work. Credit is a tool, not the product.</p>
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