Comments on: “Healer”, I think I’ll Say Something http://brentinworship.com/blog/2008/08/healer-i-think-ill-say-something/ A little bit of this. A little bit of that. But, mostly music and media. Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:04:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Ric http://brentinworship.com/blog/2008/08/healer-i-think-ill-say-something/comment-page-1/#comment-2435 Ric Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:37:46 +0000 http://brentinworship.com/blog/?p=299#comment-2435 First time I've heard of this guy and this song. Thanks for bringing it to light B. I like your thought here: "Maybe God birthed this song in him, just so that he could live it out, right now." Ric's last blog post...<a href="http://ricbooth.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/escape/" rel="nofollow">Escape</a> First time I’ve heard of this guy and this song. Thanks for bringing it to light B. I like your thought here: “Maybe God birthed this song in him, just so that he could live it out, right now.”

Ric’s last blog post…Escape

]]> By: Guest Blogger Brent Hodge On Healer : Visual Trademark - A Blog By CJ Mills http://brentinworship.com/blog/2008/08/healer-i-think-ill-say-something/comment-page-1/#comment-2432 Guest Blogger Brent Hodge On Healer : Visual Trademark - A Blog By CJ Mills Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:47:39 +0000 http://brentinworship.com/blog/?p=299#comment-2432 [...] reading the rest of Brent’s awesome perspective on this story here ….Or Brad’s thoughts here… ………….or Tyler’s thoughts [...] [...] reading the rest of Brent’s awesome perspective on this story here ….Or Brad’s thoughts here… ………….or Tyler’s thoughts [...]

]]> By: gchyayles http://brentinworship.com/blog/2008/08/healer-i-think-ill-say-something/comment-page-1/#comment-2428 gchyayles Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:45:59 +0000 http://brentinworship.com/blog/?p=299#comment-2428 Brent, I really liked what you said about putting our hope in Jesus. I think we tend to do this with leaders in our Church too. Idolizing and mistaking their Word for God's Word because they are leaders and somehow "may know better" [not more than God though, huh?!]. It's sort of like that time when all these people are celebrating religion in the Bible; lots of symbols and religious artificats springing from the Jewish religion from the OT, and Jesus sort of blows them off and talks about how He is the SOURCE behind all those religious symbols. Anyone who is thirsty, must come to Him. Without Him, the symbols mean nothing. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I enjoyed them. I didn't and still don't know much about the story but this gave me a pretty good idea and you were very neutral. Lots of love to you. gchyayles's last blog post...<a href="http://gchyayles.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/ode-to-maggie/" rel="nofollow">Ode to Maggie</a> Brent, I really liked what you said about putting our hope in Jesus. I think we tend to do this with leaders in our Church too. Idolizing and mistaking their Word for God’s Word because they are leaders and somehow “may know better” [not more than God though, huh?!]. It’s sort of like that time when all these people are celebrating religion in the Bible; lots of symbols and religious artificats springing from the Jewish religion from the OT, and Jesus sort of blows them off and talks about how He is the SOURCE behind all those religious symbols. Anyone who is thirsty, must come to Him. Without Him, the symbols mean nothing.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I enjoyed them. I didn’t and still don’t know much about the story but this gave me a pretty good idea and you were very neutral. Lots of love to you.

gchyayles’s last blog post…Ode to Maggie

]]> By: inWorship http://brentinworship.com/blog/2008/08/healer-i-think-ill-say-something/comment-page-1/#comment-2427 inWorship Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:27:58 +0000 http://brentinworship.com/blog/?p=299#comment-2427 Glad to her the hurricane has been downgraded and is passing through! Glad to her the hurricane has been downgraded and is passing through!

]]> By: Fred F. McKinnon http://brentinworship.com/blog/2008/08/healer-i-think-ill-say-something/comment-page-1/#comment-2426 Fred F. McKinnon Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:24:17 +0000 http://brentinworship.com/blog/?p=299#comment-2426 Hey, Agreed - we certainly shouldn't lose hope because of what did (or didn't happen) with a man. Hurricane? Well, Tropical Storm - I think she's heading across FL now, so it's settling down - at least I'm back online. Posted some video of the beach on FreePlay Friday at my blog. For the Kingdom, Fred McKinnon www.fredmckinnon.com www.theworshipcommunity.com Fred F. McKinnon's last blog post...<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/fredmckinnon/~3/372267504/" rel="nofollow">FreePlay Friday - Weather Man Feed Monkey</a> Hey,
Agreed – we certainly shouldn’t lose hope because of what did (or didn’t happen) with a man.

Hurricane? Well, Tropical Storm – I think she’s heading across FL now, so it’s settling down – at least I’m back online. Posted some video of the beach on FreePlay Friday at my blog.

For the Kingdom,
Fred McKinnon
http://www.fredmckinnon.com
http://www.theworshipcommunity.com

Fred F. McKinnon’s last blog post…FreePlay Friday – Weather Man Feed Monkey

]]> By: inWorship http://brentinworship.com/blog/2008/08/healer-i-think-ill-say-something/comment-page-1/#comment-2425 inWorship Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:16:42 +0000 http://brentinworship.com/blog/?p=299#comment-2425 Hey Fred, thanks for stopping by and thanks for all your input here and on your blog. The song is a powerful statement of hope in our healer, God. It will continue to be that and I have no doubt it will continue to inspire, cause it speaks truth. Also, in my saying that the song may have been "held to high", I speak again to allow ourselves to evaluate our focus. If someone is losing hope in healing because of this event, they have held the song in to high a regard, cause our God is still alive and still heals. that is all I am trying to say. I have really appreciated my daily reads like you and the others I have listed here. You all have been very honest and balanced in your discussion and leadership through the discussion. Thanks! How's the hurricane going? Hey Fred, thanks for stopping by and thanks for all your input here and on your blog.

The song is a powerful statement of hope in our healer, God. It will continue to be that and I have no doubt it will continue to inspire, cause it speaks truth.

Also, in my saying that the song may have been “held to high”, I speak again to allow ourselves to evaluate our focus. If someone is losing hope in healing because of this event, they have held the song in to high a regard, cause our God is still alive and still heals. that is all I am trying to say.

I have really appreciated my daily reads like you and the others I have listed here. You all have been very honest and balanced in your discussion and leadership through the discussion. Thanks!

How’s the hurricane going?

]]> By: Fred F. McKinnon http://brentinworship.com/blog/2008/08/healer-i-think-ill-say-something/comment-page-1/#comment-2424 Fred F. McKinnon Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:11:10 +0000 http://brentinworship.com/blog/?p=299#comment-2424 Brent, Great comments ... I agree. I can't really blame us for getting excited over the song and testimony - it was (and the song still is) a powerful, strong anthem of God's redemption and healing grace. Would the song have stood alone w/o the video and testimony? I suspect it would've ... it was plenty popular on the Planetshakers CD before Hillsong put out the video testimony. I dunno, I don't necessarily agree that the "song was held too high" ... maybe we overdid it ... but just because we responded feverishly to a great "something" doesn't make that wrong - as long as we don't let it become a SUBSTITUTE for the Gospel. For the Kingdom, Fred McKinnon www.fredmckinnon.com www.theworshipcommunity.com Fred F. McKinnon's last blog post...<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/fredmckinnon/~3/372267504/" rel="nofollow">FreePlay Friday - Weather Man Feed Monkey</a> Brent,
Great comments … I agree. I can’t really blame us for getting excited over the song and testimony – it was (and the song still is) a powerful, strong anthem of God’s redemption and healing grace. Would the song have stood alone w/o the video and testimony? I suspect it would’ve … it was plenty popular on the Planetshakers CD before Hillsong put out the video testimony.

I dunno, I don’t necessarily agree that the “song was held too high” … maybe we overdid it … but just because we responded feverishly to a great “something” doesn’t make that wrong – as long as we don’t let it become a SUBSTITUTE for the Gospel.

For the Kingdom,
Fred McKinnon
http://www.fredmckinnon.com
http://www.theworshipcommunity.com

Fred F. McKinnon’s last blog post…FreePlay Friday – Weather Man Feed Monkey

]]> By: inWorship http://brentinworship.com/blog/2008/08/healer-i-think-ill-say-something/comment-page-1/#comment-2423 inWorship Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:12:43 +0000 http://brentinworship.com/blog/?p=299#comment-2423 C, I think there is something in what you have said that speaks to why I have written about this in the way I have written. As I read through people's thoughts on this situation, I can see how this is bigger than anything we have seen in the CCM worship community. Nothing like this has happened before. I also, see a lot of hurt, pain, frustration and so on, but my attention is not on any of that. My attention is drawn to what I can learn from this and how I can keep myself from being in the same situation. I can only account for myself and my actions/response for this and I encourage others to do the same. There are a lot of highly respected people in the middle of this and so that makes this more shocking. But just the fact that it is so shocking speaks volumes to what I have said, this song was held too high, otherwise, there would not have been the same reaction to it. C, I think there is something in what you have said that speaks to why I have written about this in the way I have written.

As I read through people’s thoughts on this situation, I can see how this is bigger than anything we have seen in the CCM worship community. Nothing like this has happened before. I also, see a lot of hurt, pain, frustration and so on, but my attention is not on any of that. My attention is drawn to what I can learn from this and how I can keep myself from being in the same situation. I can only account for myself and my actions/response for this and I encourage others to do the same.

There are a lot of highly respected people in the middle of this and so that makes this more shocking. But just the fact that it is so shocking speaks volumes to what I have said, this song was held too high, otherwise, there would not have been the same reaction to it.

]]> By: Christian http://brentinworship.com/blog/2008/08/healer-i-think-ill-say-something/comment-page-1/#comment-2422 Christian Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:03:25 +0000 http://brentinworship.com/blog/?p=299#comment-2422 Gosh guys. I don't know the song or the artist. But this doesn't sound that much different from countless other incidents where people have come up with gimmicks to make a buck. What was the name of that guy who wrote that 'autobiography' about his addiction and later earned the wrath of Oprah and her minions? They felt betrayed in the way that a lot of folks here are sounding like they feel betrayed. Would his book have made the O list if it was known to be fiction? Doubtful. Is this guys song that good that he would have made it onto the Christian charts? (Wait, we've already determined on earlier threads that quality may not be essential in that case.) The books the same book, the song's the same song - they just moved into different genres. We know that Hemingway was a drunk and Van Gogh was a nut and Jane Fonda was once a traitor and Michael Jackson is ...well - it really doesn't change their art, does it? It's different with frauds like Ward Churchill, who have no art, no talent to speak of. Just an ax to grind. Lies are all that they really have to offer. Gosh guys. I don’t know the song or the artist. But this doesn’t sound that much different from countless other incidents where people have come up with gimmicks to make a buck. What was the name of that guy who wrote that ‘autobiography’ about his addiction and later earned the wrath of Oprah and her minions? They felt betrayed in the way that a lot of folks here are sounding like they feel betrayed. Would his book have made the O list if it was known to be fiction? Doubtful. Is this guys song that good that he would have made it onto the Christian charts? (Wait, we’ve already determined on earlier threads that quality may not be essential in that case.)

The books the same book, the song’s the same song – they just moved into different genres. We know that Hemingway was a drunk and Van Gogh was a nut and Jane Fonda was once a traitor and Michael Jackson is …well – it really doesn’t change their art, does it?

It’s different with frauds like Ward Churchill, who have no art, no talent to speak of. Just an ax to grind. Lies are all that they really have to offer.

]]> By: inWorship http://brentinworship.com/blog/2008/08/healer-i-think-ill-say-something/comment-page-1/#comment-2421 inWorship Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:36:46 +0000 http://brentinworship.com/blog/?p=299#comment-2421 <blockquote>"If ever he needs the Lord’s healing it is now!"</blockquote> I already said it, but I'll say it again. Maybe God birthed this song in him, just so that he could live it out, right now. I'll be praying for him.

“If ever he needs the Lord’s healing it is now!”

I already said it, but I’ll say it again. Maybe God birthed this song in him, just so that he could live it out, right now. I’ll be praying for him.

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